Posts Tagged ‘Talbot Ave. bridge’

Council work session details CCT plans

Thursday, July 15th, 2010

Update: On July 27 the Council approved the Purple Line Functional Master Plan by a unanimous vote with little discussion. The plan stands as described below.

July 15, 2010

The Montgomery County Council T&E Committee took up the proposed Purple Line Functional Master Plan on July 15. In general, the Committee followed the guidance given by the analysis in the staff packet. I’ll touch on some of the high points here, and add some information that arose from the Committee discussion with the MTA project staff that was not in the staff packet.

The Committee agreed with the recommendation to not have a single-track section in Chevy Chase. There was a long discussion on this issue and the decision was difficult for Committee members, but in the end the Committee agreed that even a short single-track section would harm the operational capabilities of the system too much. I have posted earlier at Off track on one track why a single-track section would have little, if any, benefit to the Trail.

The Committee agreed to Master Plan language that MTA should use wireless technology as much as is practical to minimize the interference of overhead wires with restoring the tree canopy after construction. MTA agreed some promising technologies are being studied, and this might be feasible for short sections in a few more years.

The Committee endorsed the plan to hold the trail on the north side of the tracks through the Chevy Chase and East Bethesda neighborhoods. As for the discussion of single-track, this was a difficult decision for the Council Members. But in the end they agreed with the MTA finding that this would allow for a trail with better vertical separation. I have posted earlier at Flipping the trail south on why the trail is better on the north side overall.

The Committee did welcome news that MTA and the Town of Chevy Chase were having continuing discussions on how to make the at-grade crossing at Lynn Drive safe, and also were having discussions on possibly building a local neighborhood trail along the south side of the transitway between the Lynn Drive path and Elm Street Park.

The Committee agreed to strengthen language on the trail width – to make the 12’ width the standard wherever possible, instead of having a 10’ width be the standard with 12’ only listed as desirable. Councilmember Leventhal shared that the County is negotiating with the Columbia Country Club for an agreement that would have the Club drop its opposition to the Purple Line in exchange for shifting the Purple Line alignment shift a few feet north at the Club, to minimize the impact on the greens on the south side. A 10′ trail width through the Club may be a part of that agreement. My own view is that if 2′ is a deal breaker, surely there is another place to find 2′, say by reducing the width of the planted buffer between trail and rail. We need all of the trail width we can get!

July 16 update: Councilmember Leventhal has received clarification from Mike Madden of MTA that the trail width is NOT a sticking point in negotiations with the Club, and the Trail can be a consistent 12′ width through this area.

Committee discussions with MTA showed that the newest plans have two alignment shifts for the future Trail from that shown in previous plans:
1) The trail will shift from the north side of the tracks to the south side of the tracks at Rock Creek, instead of just west of Jones Mill Road. MTA did not present any sketches showing how the trail would shift sides, but I’m guessing that the Trail would cross from north to south underneath the Purple Line transit bridge span right at Rock Creek. A sketch of the older plan is at Access to a real park and shows the trail bridge could clear beneath the transit bridge at Rock Creek. In my opinion, this can be an improvement over the older plan if designed right – it eliminates the need for an up and over crossing west of Jones Mill Road for less elevation change on the CCT, while still giving good access to the Rock Creek Trail.
2) The Trail will cross over CSX west of the Rosemary Hills Elementary School, instead of just east of the Talbot Avenue Bridge.. This change is believed necessary to avoid increasing the height of the retaining wall that is close behind the school now. This change requires taking several feet from the yards of five homes along Talbot Ave. between Michigan Ave. and Lanier Drive, and making Talbot Ave. one-way on this block. I consider this as roughly an even trade-off for the Trail if done right – it eliminates at-grade crossings of Michigan Ave. and Lanier Drive, but creates an at-grade crossing at the east end of the Talbot Ave. Bridge.

map of new CSX crossing location

The approximate location of the new
proposed trail crossing of CSX.
See the gmap-pedometer interactive map.

The Committee supported new access points for the Trail. The most significant new access might be by building a new access trail along a stream valley that leads into Coquelin Run, from Jones Bridge to Jones Mill Road. Depending upon the length of the access trail, new access can be: 1) just from Jones Bridge Road at Manor Drive; 2) or also from the east end of Chevy Chase Lake Drive; 3) or also from Jones Mill Road near East-West Highway. As the staff packet notes, this is a new idea and it is much too early to know if this will have acceptable environmental and neighborhood impacts. I hope this access trail can be built – it would give good access from many homes in this area.

map of Coquelin access trail

The approximate location of a new access path
in the Coquelin stream valley.
See the gmap-pedometer interactive map.

MTA now estimates the cost of rebuilding/completing the CCT alongside the Purple Line at $65M for a 10’ wide trail. Much of that cost is in the cost of structures such as retaining walls to keep the trail higher than the rail, and the cost of lowering the railbed in the Bethesda Tunnel to make room for the trail to be overhead. Cost for a 12’ wide trail will be higher. By prior agreement between the County and MTA the cost to build the Trail is to come from sources other than transit funding, so as not to burden the Purple Line proposal with the cost of the trail when the Purple Line competes at FTA against other projects. But as Council members pointed out to MTA staff, this does not mean that all of the cost of the Trail must come from County funding. Other state funding sources such as Transportation Enhancement funds can be used. The County also intends to negotiate with MTA on how the cost sharing is determined where trail and transit share structures and grading. The County will also press MTA for full credit for the County contribution of the right-of-way when the final cost share between County and State is negotiated.

I believe the MTA may be taking a too restrictive view of Trail use in calculating cost sharing. In many places the Trail will be a major pathway for transit users to reach the Purple Line stations from the neighborhoods, and where significant numbers of trail users are really transit users the cost of the trail should be proportionately assigned as a necessary part of the transit system. Scarce County funds for trails should not be used to build the Purple Line’s pedestrian access system – that part of the cost is a legitimate transit budget item. MTA may be viewing the trail as a separate system, instead of seeing it as an integral and necessary part of the Purple Line system.

Overall I think the T&E Committee reached thoughtful, even courageous, decisions. The Master Plan now goes to the full Council at a July 20 work session. After the Council has approved the plan, it returns to the M-NCPPC for final confirmation. Most of the ‘heavy lifting’ is done now, I doubt that any major changes will come on the path to final confirmation.

Rails, trails and Georgetown Junction

Friday, September 25th, 2009

milepost 0.0 on Talbot Ave.(Future) Capital Crescent Trail milepost 0.0 stands alongside Talbot Avenue in Rosemary Hills, near the Rosemary Hills Elementary School. The CSX railroad Metropolitan Branch rail line runs in a cut on the other side of the milepost. There is nothing within sight of milepost 0.0 that remotely looks like the Capital Crescent off road trail.

The (Future) Capital Crescent Trail milepost 0.31 stands five blocks to the west of milepost 0.0 at an obscure trailhead on the south side of Stewart Avenue near Brookville Road, in an industrial park. The off road interim CCT to Bethesda begins there. So why does the off road trail begin at milepost 0.31 and not at milepost 0.0?

trailhead at Stewart Ave.

The Interim CCT trailhead and milepost 0.31 at Stewart Ave.

There are three points of interest to the rail and trail history in this area:
1) Where the off road Interim CCT begins, at Stewart Ave,
2) Where the portion of the Georgetown Branch corridor that is owned by Montgomery County begins, and
3) Where the Georgetown Branch corridor begins at “Georgetown Junction”.

map of Georgetown Branch at east end

1) Interim CCT begins; 2) County owned part of the r.o.w. begins, and
3) Georgetown Junction, where the Georgetown Branch corridor begins.
(Click on this image for a larger view.)

The existing off road Interim CCT begins at Stewart Avenue because that is the most eastern point in the Georgetown Branch corridor that the County owns and that has public street access, shown at 1) in the image above. The County owns the corridor right-of-way to a point about 450 feet east of Stewart Avenue, shown at 2) above. But that point is at a dead end behind several small business warehouses. The Georgetown Branch rail corridor continues another 1200 feet beyond where the County owned section ends, around a curve behind the industrial area and then alongside the west side of the Metropolitan Branch railroad corridor to Talbot Avenue and “Georgetown Junction”, shown at 3) above. The old railroad spur to Georgetown enters the Metropolitan Branch rail corridor at Georgetown Junction, and switches into the west side main line track under the Talbot Avenue Bridge. The (Future) CCT milepost 0.0 is located precisely at Georgetown Junction. Note: I am using the 1918 Baltimore and Ohio Railroad Company Right-of-Way and Track Map drawings, annotated in 1988 to list the portion purchased by Montgomery County in that year, as a source.

Georgetown Junction

The Georgetown Branch rail corridor begins at “Georgetown Junction”, which can be seen looking north from the Talbot Avenue Bridge. Talbot Avenue and milepost 0.0 are behind the tree line on the left.

The CSX Railroad still owns that last 1200 feet of the Georgetown Branch corridor to Georgetown Junction. CSX would not sell that portion to Mont. Co. in 1988 because CSX wanted to keep rail spur access to the few businesses at Brookville Road. Now trees grow in the spur track there. Failure to get that 1200 feet of right-of-way has forced the trail to go on road at Stewart Avenue, then follow four different streets with four turns (hence the “Bermuda Triangle of the trail”) just to get to Talbot Avenue, see the route at Mapping the essential link. This problem will go away when the State of Maryland buys additional right-of-way from CSX for the Purple Line light rail and trail.

The Coalition for the CCT chose Georgetown Junction as the start point for the trail mile marker system because of its historic significance. That creates a problem in the PIHTHS category (i.e. “Problems I Hope to Have Soon”). What will we do for mileposts along the new trail section when the CCT is completed along the Metropolitan Branch rail corridor into downtown Silver Spring? We can follow the existing system and use numbers less than 0.0. We would then have milepost -0.5 at Woodside, milepost -1.0 near the Colesville Road trail bridge, and milepost -1.1 at the CCT trailhead in the transit center, where the trail will meet the Metropolitan Branch Trail. I can deal with negative numbers, even imaginary numbers and complex numbers, since I minored in mathematics in college. But I think others will object.

Any thoughts on the future mile marker problem?

Talbot Ave. Bridge open?

Thursday, November 20th, 2008

The Talbot Avenue Bridge is open to motor vehicle traffic again.

At 9 a.m. today the bridge was open to all traffic. All “bridge closed” signs and barriers were gone. Automobiles were using the bridge. A CSX flagman (or flagperson) was on the bridge and signaling by radio to an approaching freight train that it was all clear of bridge repair activity.

The CSX flagperson watches one of “her” trains pass below
the Talbot Avenue Bridge.

The CSX flagperson did not look like she had anything to do. There was no bridge repair crew around and no sign that any more repair work was planned. But the CSX flagperson said the bridge was only “unofficially” open.

At 1 p.m. the flagperson was still on site and looking bored. Maybe someone at Montgomery County DOT needs to declare the bridge opening “official” so CSX can release its flagperson. ….On second thought, having the flagperson stay on might be a good idea. No one is going to try to burn the bridge down again while she is there.

More Talbot Ave. Bridge trouble

Thursday, November 13th, 2008

Why can’t we all just get along?

I had posted on Nov. 9 at here we go again that it looked like the Talbot Avenue Bridge repairs could be finished in a few days, and that a petition was being circulated in North Woodside to keep the bridge closed to motor vehicle traffic. But yesterday, Nov. 12, crews were welding steel and shoring up the embankment below the bridge, and workmen said they would be there for a few more weeks.

A quick Google search turned up the following notice from Montgomery County DOT:

TALBOT AVENUE BRIDGE CLOSURE:
TALBOT AVE BRIDGE HAS BEEN CLOSED SINCE JUNE 2008. THE BRIDGE WAS CLOSED AFTER IT WAS DISCOVERED DURING AN INTERIM INSPECTION THAT THE DETERIORATED BRIDGE DECK COULD NOT SAFELY CARRY VEHICULAR TRAFFIC. AFTER ACQUIRING A CSXT RAILROAD PERMIT, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (MCDOT) BEGAN BRIDGE REPAIRS ON TUESDAY, OCTOBER 28, 2008. UNFORTUNATELY THE BRIDGE REPAIR SITE WAS VANDALIZED ON THE MORNING OF MONDAY, NOVEMBER 3, 2008. DECKING WAS TORCHED, NEWLY INSTALLED HANDRAIL TORN DOWN AND SUGAR WAS POURED INTO THE GAS TANK OF MCDOT EQUIPMENT. DUE TO THE VANDALIZATION, THE BRIDGE REPAIR SCHEDULE IS BEING REASSESSED, AND A SCHEDULE UPDATE WILL SOON FOLLOW.

Google also turns up this conversation with Rosemary Hills residents on the WAMU website about the vandalism, and the news that WAMU has assigned a reporter to investigate the controversy over keeping the bridge closed.

Here we go again!

Sunday, November 9th, 2008

The Talbot Avenue Bridge has been closed since May for repairs. Apparently Montgomery County has finally received the permits from CSX that were needed to work on the bridge. Work crews have been busy on the bridge last week, and the bridge appears to be almost ready to re-open to vehicle traffic.

But now residents of North Woodside are circulating a petition to ask that the bridge remain closed permanently to all vehicle traffic. We have seen this all before, as I reported here. And the outcome will likely be the same as before – a bitter fight between neighborhoods until a grown-up steps in again and says “enough – the bridge will stay open.”

I would like to see the new trail bridge built soon near the Talbot Ave. Bridge as planned with the Purple Line (or even before the Purple Line). I hate to see the neighborhood try to drag the trail into the middle of their fight to turn their neighborhood into a cul-de-sac yet again.

Talbot Ave. Bridge repairs

Thursday, August 14th, 2008

The Talbot Avenue Bridge has remained closed to motor vehicle traffic since May 28. It has remained open to pedestrian and bicycle traffic.

Montgomery County DOT found damaged boards in the bridge deck during a May 28 inspection, and immediately closed the bridge to motor vehicle traffic for emergency repairs. At first the repair was expected to require several weeks. But MC DOT found that the repair would require timbers of an unusual size, and the timbers would need to be ordered. MC DOT announced in a June 23 press release that the repair work would require about two weeks after the timbers have been received, and all work should be completed by September.

September is barely two weeks away and there is still no sign that MC DOT has the timbers needed to begin the repair work. I am happy to wait longer – it is nice to be able to cycle across the bridge without having to take turns with motor vehicles. But the closure to motor vehicles is a serious inconvenience to residents who need the bridge for local access.

Update: “Joe of Rosemary Hills” has an email from MC DOT that says NOVEMBER – see his comment below.

90 years old and counting.

Saturday, March 15th, 2008

The fate of the Talbot Avenue Bridge was discussed at the Purple Line CSX/Lyttonsville/Woodside focus group meeting on March 12. MTA Project Manager Mike Madden told the group of local residents that MTA intends to disassemble and remove the old bridge during Purple Line construction, but the bridge would be reassembled at its present location after the Purple Line trackbed is completed. This is, of course, IF the old bridge can survive the process of being taken apart and then being put back together again. The new Capital Crescent Trail would have its own new bridge over the CSX/Purple Line tracks about 100 feet south of the rebuilt Talbot Avenue Bridge.

See more of the bridge at my flickr photoset.

The Talbot Avenue Bridge was built in 1918. The center section was a railroad turntable bridge hauled to the site from Martinsburg and turned upside down to serve as a road bridge. It is a single lane bridge with a wood deck, and carries 1000-2000 vehicles every day.

The bridge requires frequent repairs. In 1996 the bridge was closed when it was discovered to be unsafe, and repaired. The bridge was closed again during weekday periods for about four weeks this winter to repair rust damage, and new steel braces were welded onto the existing braces to extend the bridge life for a few more years.

So why not just haul this rusting old bridge off to the junk heap, and build a new two lane bridge here? DPWT raised the issue of permanently closing the bridge when the bridge as closed as unsafe in 1996. Residents of North Woodside, mostly those living on Hanover Street and Grace Church Road, supported the idea and started a campaign to keep the bridge closed permanently except for pedestrian/cyclist traffic. They played the “Won’t someone think of the children” card, arguing that the bridge traffic endangers neighborhood children. Street hockey goals and basketball hoops started to appear along Grace Church Road and Hanover Street curbs.

But many residents in Rosemary Hills and Lyttonsville wanted the Talbot Avenue Bridge reopened as soon as possible. They argued that the bridge provided important access out of their neighborhood and they were being badly inconvenienced by the bridge closure. They pointed out that this bridge was open when the North Woodside residents bought their homes, and if North Woodside residents wanted their children to be safe they should not encourage them to play in the streets.

This debate started to develop an ugly “other side of the tracks” undertone, since the North Woodside residents lobbying to keep the bridge closed were mostly white, while the Rosemary Hills residents wanting the bridge reopened were majority black. Then County Executive Doug Duncan ended this potentially explosive debate by declaring the long term status quo would be preserved. The bridge was repaired and reopened.

Mike Madden indicated at the March 12 focus group meeting that MTA does not want to open a new neighborhood battle here, and therefore proposes to maintain the status quo by reopening the old bridge as close to its original condition as possible unless Montgomery County requests a new motor vehicle bridge.

The Coalition for the Capital Crescent Trail (CCCT) supports the recommendation of the 2001 Trail Facility Plan and of MTA that the trail should cross CSX on a new trail bridge that is separate from the existing Talbot Avenue Bridge. The old one lane bridge cannot safely carry both the existing motor vehicle traffic and also the heavy trail traffic that will come when the CCT is completed into Silver Spring. CCCT’s position will help it avoid getting into the middle of a new neighborhood fight over the motor vehicle bridge.

The CCCT and MTA are wise to avoid another neighborhood bridge dispute.